perdidisima Yes I know that during these months. But I return with a text I wrote a lot, if you read me want to write more and share it again.
Here goes ...
I think there are three powerful forces that move the world: love the sex and money . The order depends on the individual, but in my opinion, are the three forces that make us rise up to try to get some of them. Therefore, I will start with a post about that I find most important: love. But in this case the platonic love. This was written late at night, following a discussion of whether the platonic love was asexual or not. criollosófico is, so it is quite understandable. But first, the words of a great modern thinker .....¡¡ JERRY SEINFELD!:
"Apparently Plato, Who Came up with the concept of the Platonic Relationship, was pretty excited about it . I named it after Himself. I Said `` Yeah, I got this new thing - "platonic." My idea, my name, callin' it after myself... What I do is, I go *out*with the girls, I *talk* with them-- don't *do* anything... and go right home. What'dya think? I think it's going to be *big*!''I bet you there were other guys in history that tried to getrelationships named after them, but it didn't work. Y'know, I bet you there were guys who tried to do it, just went: ``Hi, my name's Rico. Would you like to go to bed immediately? Hey, it's a *"Riconic"* relationship...'' Jerry Seinfeld. Episodio 103.
Y en español, finalmente, mi reflexión sobre el amor platónico...(parece larga, but has a single page word che!)
Due to the difficult discussion that was presented on Saturday about the platonic love and sexual or asexual status, I began to research the topic. First I want to clarify the various possibilities of definition of platonic love. The most common and mundane is "impossible love." Then there is the ideal love, celestial love, pure and eternal love as well. All these are possible definitions that relate to the concept of platonic love of course. We may, in my view, finding a true part in each of the definitions, but the intention is really impossible to know if this love, ideal, heavenly, pure and eternal, is asexual or not, I will concentrate on eso.Tomando the literal sense of the word platonic, it is obvious that comes from Plato. Plato refers to the theory of ideas, to reject what the senses we have and take as true what the soul of reason and reach. Basically, to seek perfection and beauty with which the soul is thus eleva.Por, following Plato, The Symposium will take work to try to unravel the misterio.Hay seven speeches by various "characters", the first Phaedrus is identifying Eros (love) with sexual passion and what qualifies as the oldest of the gods. Phaedrus says that Eros is responsible for the greater good and inspires courage and personal sacrifice (for the beloved). The second speech is Pausanias, believe there is Celeste and another Vulgar Eros. Says that if a Vulgar Eros unites two people, that love will be rude and selfish, but if the Celeste Eros unites all the lovers are allowed because the bodies of them will be only the driver of the sublime love of the third almas.El Eryximachus is that supports this image of the two Eros, but for him this Eros Celeste and the other vulgar, Eros translate into good and bad. The good news is cautious, and avoid excesses. The other is destructive. The difference between Eryximachus and Pausanias, is that Eryximachus think that love is good, no matter the subject, provided it is not excessive 
. Aristophanes expresses in his fourth speech, at first the men had two heads, four legs and four arms. And with regard to their sex, there were three kinds of humans: some had males and females, others had two sexes male and two femeninos.Esta race of men faced the gods, and Zeus as punishment left for each in two with a beam dividing into two halves. Therefore, attempts to unite the separate Eros by Zeus, and humans spend their lives looking for this half is lacking. Sexo.Agatón No matter involved, but in fact merely entertain Eros. It is at this point that Socrates intervenes and says that Eros is desire, but only want what is not there, missing. If you love something you have, is because they want to continue so in the future (to love somebody is among other things want to live forever). So Eros is not in itself beautiful and good, but it is the desire of beauty and goodness. Socrates says that this knowledge about Eros is the priestess Diotima taught. According to her, Eros is not exactly a god but a daimon (a being intermediate between gods and mortals). He is the son of Penia, lack and Poros, the resource. His mother wants what is not, and his father does not stop for it. It is the desire to possess the good forever. The desire for procreation in the beautiful and the climb from the beautiful things to beauty itself. Clearly daimon Eros condition defines the latter idea: crush: looks for beauty, but without rejecting its origin, meaning of beauty to the beauty that time comes perfecta.En drunken Alcibiades, Socrates presents and ponders. Under the influence of wine, starts counting Alcibiades in his youth he was deeply in love with Socrates, but it received its initiatives with sympathy but with distance. And once introduced into the bed of Socrates and not pushed it, but that morning when he rose, Alcibiades was that he had slept with his father or brother. Is say, that Socrates had not finally relented and this love so sought after by Alcibiades had not been consummated. This reveals, finally, the nature of love platónico.No is neither the only sexual desire, as I said Phaedrus, or superior or celestial love, as Pausanias raised, nor the desire prudent Aristophanes. The Platonic Eros does not deny its origin in the lower, but look for this promotion that makes the lover, and pursued both the rise of amado.Entonces, at least from this point of view of philosophy, Platonic love is fundamentally the impossible love. This does not mean removing bodily desire or pleasure. Nor the conditional existence of sexual desire. After both Greek feast, we returned to the first definition of so-called vulgar worldly Platonic love.
. Aristophanes expresses in his fourth speech, at first the men had two heads, four legs and four arms. And with regard to their sex, there were three kinds of humans: some had males and females, others had two sexes male and two femeninos.Esta race of men faced the gods, and Zeus as punishment left for each in two with a beam dividing into two halves. Therefore, attempts to unite the separate Eros by Zeus, and humans spend their lives looking for this half is lacking. Sexo.Agatón No matter involved, but in fact merely entertain Eros. It is at this point that Socrates intervenes and says that Eros is desire, but only want what is not there, missing. If you love something you have, is because they want to continue so in the future (to love somebody is among other things want to live forever). So Eros is not in itself beautiful and good, but it is the desire of beauty and goodness. Socrates says that this knowledge about Eros is the priestess Diotima taught. According to her, Eros is not exactly a god but a daimon (a being intermediate between gods and mortals). He is the son of Penia, lack and Poros, the resource. His mother wants what is not, and his father does not stop for it. It is the desire to possess the good forever. The desire for procreation in the beautiful and the climb from the beautiful things to beauty itself. Clearly daimon Eros condition defines the latter idea: crush: looks for beauty, but without rejecting its origin, meaning of beauty to the beauty that time comes perfecta.En drunken Alcibiades, Socrates presents and ponders. Under the influence of wine, starts counting Alcibiades in his youth he was deeply in love with Socrates, but it received its initiatives with sympathy but with distance. And once introduced into the bed of Socrates and not pushed it, but that morning when he rose, Alcibiades was that he had slept with his father or brother. Is say, that Socrates had not finally relented and this love so sought after by Alcibiades had not been consummated. This reveals, finally, the nature of love platónico.No is neither the only sexual desire, as I said Phaedrus, or superior or celestial love, as Pausanias raised, nor the desire prudent Aristophanes. The Platonic Eros does not deny its origin in the lower, but look for this promotion that makes the lover, and pursued both the rise of amado.Entonces, at least from this point of view of philosophy, Platonic love is fundamentally the impossible love. This does not mean removing bodily desire or pleasure. Nor the conditional existence of sexual desire. After both Greek feast, we returned to the first definition of so-called vulgar worldly Platonic love. 
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